Comments on: How The 5 Autumns Add Brown To Hair Colour http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/ Know your perfect colours. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:07:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Gabby http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-530 Gabby Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:40:00 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-530 Thank you so much that you took the time to answer!! I haven't died my hair since a year, because I cannot find a color. Naturally it looks exactly like the color swatch you posted in this post as a soft summer hair color. And I really want to cover the grey hairs... It's interesting that you pointed out that make-up will intensify the warm-cold clash with the hair as it really does! Especially lipsticks and blushes in those tawny peach shades make my hair look grey-ish. Wearing cooler shades, more on the warm pink side, works better with my hair but is almost impossible to get, because most of the warm pinks are quite spring-ish colors I feel or at least not enough muted for me. (I have no contrast whatsoever...) Do you think I should leave the peaches and go for warm pinks only? Your suggestion with bleaching the hair beyond orange and then going for a tawny color is what I did a few times but it really ruins my fine hair and also the second dye then leaves my hair within three hair washes! But the color was good this way... I don't even know why I'm bothering you as you are not a chemist but maybe some other soft autumn reads my post and has a tip for me? I am thinking about dying my hair in a chestnut color and washing it three times or so directly after the dying process even before I put the conditioner thing on. Maybe this will mute the color down enough. Or maybe I should go for an ash blonde dye? I think they put green pigment in the ash toned dies so green with my orange would equal some kind of muddy brown I suppose... I'm starting to feel like a chemist myself. :-) Have a nice day! Gabby Thank you so much that you took the time to answer!!

I haven’t died my hair since a year, because I cannot find a color.
Naturally it looks exactly like the color swatch you posted in this post as a soft summer hair color. And I really want to cover the grey hairs…

It’s interesting that you pointed out that make-up will intensify the warm-cold clash with the hair as it really does!
Especially lipsticks and blushes in those tawny peach shades make my hair look grey-ish.

Wearing cooler shades, more on the warm pink side, works better with my hair but is almost impossible to get, because most of the warm pinks are quite spring-ish colors I feel or at least not enough muted for me. (I have no contrast whatsoever…)

Do you think I should leave the peaches and go for warm pinks only?

Your suggestion with bleaching the hair beyond orange and then going for a tawny color is what I did a few times but it really ruins my fine hair and also the second dye then leaves my hair within three hair washes! But the color was good this way…

I don’t even know why I’m bothering you as you are not a chemist but maybe some other soft autumn reads my post and has a tip for me?

I am thinking about dying my hair in a chestnut color and washing it three times or so directly after the dying process even before I put the conditioner thing on. Maybe this will mute the color down enough.

Or maybe I should go for an ash blonde dye? I think they put green pigment in the ash toned dies so green with my orange would equal some kind of muddy brown I suppose…

I’m starting to feel like a chemist myself. :-)

Have a nice day!

Gabby

]]> By: Christine Scaman http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-527 Christine Scaman Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:35:43 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-527 Gabby, I so feel your pain. I'm not enough of a color chemist to solve this issue for you. Unfortunately, exactly as you say, hairdressers don't even understand the problem...and I have yet to meet one that wants to. I do not believe this is a difficult problem to solve, but it seems next to impossible to get someone willing to ask the question, willing to go out there and say "We're just taking our best guess. Hair colorists cannot know the type or amount of heat in hair color that will perfect a skin tone unless a person is color analyzed." Your base color IS perfect, but as a Soft Season, it may not be interesting. And indeed, it may look much cooler than you do, further intensified with the makeup you may wear. I think everyone with a certain darkness in hair has underlying orange pigment, or at least orange seems to be a stage hair has to pass through to get to blonde. Why lightening it beyond orange, and then toning/coloring a soft tawny butterscotch is impossible, now that I do not understand. Gabby,
I so feel your pain. I’m not enough of a color chemist to solve this issue for you. Unfortunately, exactly as you say, hairdressers don’t even understand the problem…and I have yet to meet one that wants to.
I do not believe this is a difficult problem to solve, but it seems next to impossible to get someone willing to ask the question, willing to go out there and say “We’re just taking our best guess. Hair colorists cannot know the type or amount of heat in hair color that will perfect a skin tone unless a person is color analyzed.”
Your base color IS perfect, but as a Soft Season, it may not be interesting. And indeed, it may look much cooler than you do, further intensified with the makeup you may wear.
I think everyone with a certain darkness in hair has underlying orange pigment, or at least orange seems to be a stage hair has to pass through to get to blonde. Why lightening it beyond orange, and then toning/coloring a soft tawny butterscotch is impossible, now that I do not understand.

]]> By: Gabby http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Gabby Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:58:27 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-510 Great post! I love the color comparison of the 5 autumns! There is only one thing I still don't get. You say nature gave us the right base color in our hair, right? So, I'm a soft autumn and my hair is a taupe-y color that is rather cool. If I do nothing to it, it clashes with my skin, eyes and make-up. It is too cool for my skin. From years of trying (hairdressers included) I know that I need to warm my hair but not too much. I also know, that highlights/lowlights never look natural on me, an all over color is better despite highlights are always recommended for the soft seasons. And here's the problem. All blond dies, also the darker ones, turn orange on me. I just have this underlying orange pigment. Redder/chestnut/cognac tones are too much but once they faded a few weeks the effect is flattering. Any advice what I can do about that? I asked a lot of hair dressers but none seemed to even understand my problem and the effects were even worse than from dies at home. Great post! I love the color comparison of the 5 autumns!

There is only one thing I still don’t get. You say nature gave us the right base color in our hair, right?

So, I’m a soft autumn and my hair is a taupe-y color that is rather cool. If I do nothing to it, it clashes with my skin, eyes and make-up. It is too cool for my skin.

From years of trying (hairdressers included) I know that I need to warm my hair but not too much. I also know, that highlights/lowlights never look natural on me, an all over color is better despite highlights are always recommended for the soft seasons.

And here’s the problem. All blond dies, also the darker ones, turn orange on me. I just have this underlying orange pigment.
Redder/chestnut/cognac tones are too much but once they faded a few weeks the effect is flattering.
Any advice what I can do about that?

I asked a lot of hair dressers but none seemed to even understand my problem and the effects were even worse than from dies at home.

]]> By: Christine Scaman http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-445 Christine Scaman Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:33:02 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-445 I always love the descriptives I read. Adriane's "visual ripple" when wrong color meets a face, your "cheery, manic". A Spring doesn't see their colors (or character) as manic, but they can fatigue everyone else. Similarly, a True Autumn will sit there happily in the schoolbus yellow drape and wonder why everyone else is groaning and twitching, saying "Get the drape off, get the drape off". I always love the descriptives I read. Adriane’s “visual ripple” when wrong color meets a face, your “cheery, manic”. A Spring doesn’t see their colors (or character) as manic, but they can fatigue everyone else. Similarly, a True Autumn will sit there happily in the schoolbus yellow drape and wonder why everyone else is groaning and twitching, saying “Get the drape off, get the drape off”.

]]> By: Sarah http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-443 Sarah Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:27:39 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-443 I never understood until now that some "non-true" seasons actually exhibit both warm and cool characteristics. I thought that each was still definitively warm or cool (while being lighter, softer, etc.), and that if I saw both warm and cool in my coloring that either I must not get it, or else I'm a freak of nature (still always a possibility!). There are no sci Art analysts in Vermont, where I live, so I know I'm just guessing, but I'm working with the idea that I may be "soft," probably a very neutral soft autumn. I'm enjoying trying out some soft summer colors and taking a step back from all the cheery (manic?) spring colors I've been encouraged to wear, as a fair redhead. At least I can rule out winter! Thanks again! I never understood until now that some “non-true” seasons actually exhibit both warm and cool characteristics. I thought that each was still definitively warm or cool (while being lighter, softer, etc.), and that if I saw both warm and cool in my coloring that either I must not get it, or else I’m a freak of nature (still always a possibility!). There are no sci Art analysts in Vermont, where I live, so I know I’m just guessing, but I’m working with the idea that I may be “soft,” probably a very neutral soft autumn. I’m enjoying trying out some soft summer colors and taking a step back from all the cheery (manic?) spring colors I’ve been encouraged to wear, as a fair redhead. At least I can rule out winter!

Thanks again!

]]> By: Sarah http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-442 Sarah Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:00:34 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-442 got it! I can't stop reading about this . . . You have an excellent site! got it! I can’t stop reading about this . . . You have an excellent site!

]]> By: Christine Scaman http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-439 Christine Scaman Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:58:25 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-439 Neutral means a blend of 2 True Seasons, so the skin contains some degree of warmth and coolness. Still within the 12, where there are 4 Trues and 8 Neutrals. Neutral means a blend of 2 True Seasons, so the skin contains some degree of warmth and coolness. Still within the 12, where there are 4 Trues and 8 Neutrals.

]]> By: Sarah http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-424 Sarah Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:51:53 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-424 Thanks so much! By neutral season, do you mean something like soft summer, or is it outside the 12? Sorry--I'm just becoming familiar with all this! Thanks so much! By neutral season, do you mean something like soft summer, or is it outside the 12? Sorry–I’m just becoming familiar with all this!

]]> By: Christine Scaman http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-420 Christine Scaman Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:55:13 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-420 Sarah, I get nowhere with photos, colors of palms, colors of veins, and so on. Others can do it, but not me. Your verbal description is brilliant though, and sounds very much like a Neutral Season. Sarah,
I get nowhere with photos, colors of palms, colors of veins, and so on. Others can do it, but not me. Your verbal description is brilliant though, and sounds very much like a Neutral Season.

]]> By: Sarah http://12blueprints.com/how-the-5-autumns-add-brown-to-hair-colour/comment-page-1/#comment-416 Sarah Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:37:57 +0000 http://12blueprints.com/?p=327#comment-416 This discussion of blended seasons is so relevant to me! I'm a musician with a website, so you can actually see a few pictures of me (www.sarahblair.us/press%20kit.htm and elsewhere on my site). I have red hair, so "ought" to be a spring or autumn. I do seem to like warm colors in clothing (cream, muted greens, khaki, never white, charcoal, fuschia), but warm makeup shades look yellow or orange on my skin. I hate "peach" blush more than just about anything! Back in the Prescriptives days, I was typed a blue-red, and those colors were great on my skin. But compared to my husband, my palms are yellow, and my winter-pale feet are ivory. What do you make of me? This discussion of blended seasons is so relevant to me! I’m a musician with a website, so you can actually see a few pictures of me (www.sarahblair.us/press%20kit.htm and elsewhere on my site). I have red hair, so “ought” to be a spring or autumn. I do seem to like warm colors in clothing (cream, muted greens, khaki, never white, charcoal, fuschia), but warm makeup shades look yellow or orange on my skin. I hate “peach” blush more than just about anything! Back in the Prescriptives days, I was typed a blue-red, and those colors were great on my skin. But compared to my husband, my palms are yellow, and my winter-pale feet are ivory. What do you make of me?

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